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		<title>By: andrea &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrea &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 09:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Roberto Galoppini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Galoppini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave,

 what I am pointing out here is that both sides managed to fool ISO, and it is not a big deal. ODF didn't require a strong lobby activity as far as I know, and in this respect there is a difference, I agree.

 If you didn't heard about opponents lobbying efforts I would suggest you to check out how many members get at the very end of the process in Italy, and how did they vote. Enlightening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave,</p>
<p> what I am pointing out here is that both sides managed to fool ISO, and it is not a big deal. ODF didn&#8217;t require a strong lobby activity as far as I know, and in this respect there is a difference, I agree.</p>
<p> If you didn&#8217;t heard about opponents lobbying efforts I would suggest you to check out how many members get at the very end of the process in Italy, and how did they vote. Enlightening.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if the "opponent tribe" was found to have used similar lobbying efforts, how does that make Microsoft's actions any more positive? Also, why haven't we heard about these lobbying efforts by now? I think that IBM, Sun and others definitely lobbied hard for ODF, but not using the underhanded tactics of stacking votes and buying support. There's a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if the &#8220;opponent tribe&#8221; was found to have used similar lobbying efforts, how does that make Microsoft&#8217;s actions any more positive? Also, why haven&#8217;t we heard about these lobbying efforts by now? I think that IBM, Sun and others definitely lobbied hard for ODF, but not using the underhanded tactics of stacking votes and buying support. There&#8217;s a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto Galoppini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roberto Galoppini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon,

you are raising a very important issue, I believe. This time, much more than other times were the general public was less interested or aware on the subject, we saw an amazing lobbying activity. Despite I am a fan of ODF, I think it is fair to let people know that JTC1 commissions were under a simultaneous bilateral attack.

Talking about real problems, I am afraid that ISO is publicly showing its limits. I really hope that all this will help us to get ISO's participation and decision processes more similar to IETF.

It is really great time for a change, now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon,</p>
<p>you are raising a very important issue, I believe. This time, much more than other times were the general public was less interested or aware on the subject, we saw an amazing lobbying activity. Despite I am a fan of ODF, I think it is fair to let people know that JTC1 commissions were under a simultaneous bilateral attack.</p>
<p>Talking about real problems, I am afraid that ISO is publicly showing its limits. I really hope that all this will help us to get ISO&#8217;s participation and decision processes more similar to IETF.</p>
<p>It is really great time for a change, now.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Phipps</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Phipps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I believe that sooner or later similar charges against opponents will come out.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I'm not sure that's the point though, Roberto. In my experience of various standards bodies, paying for experts to be involved is relatively normal. I'm sure we'll find that various companies engaged various others to represent them or at least to participate from previously known positions.

The issue with the recent OOXML vote was less that people were recruited to the committees and more the numbers in which they were recruited. The recruitment may have been both within the rules and part of normal practice. But the &lt;em&gt;scale&lt;/em&gt; of the recruitment was not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I believe that sooner or later similar charges against opponents will come out.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that&#8217;s the point though, Roberto. In my experience of various standards bodies, paying for experts to be involved is relatively normal. I&#8217;m sure we&#8217;ll find that various companies engaged various others to represent them or at least to participate from previously known positions.</p>
<p>The issue with the recent OOXML vote was less that people were recruited to the committees and more the numbers in which they were recruited. The recruitment may have been both within the rules and part of normal practice. But the <em>scale</em> of the recruitment was not.</p>
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		<title>By: Microsoft Gossip &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Microsoft Gossip &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] toddbishop@seattlepi.com (Todd Bishop) wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptSince this vote is not the end of the process, that will go until February when another JTC-1 meeting in Geneva will take place, I posed some questions to Andrea Valboni, Italian Microsoft’s CTO (read the disclosure). &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="mailto:toddbishop@seattlepi.com">toddbishop@seattlepi.com</a> (Todd Bishop) wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptSince this vote is not the end of the process, that will go until February when another JTC-1 meeting in Geneva will take place, I posed some questions to Andrea Valboni, Italian Microsoft’s CTO (read the disclosure). &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Techy News Blog &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</title>
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		<dc:creator>Techy News Blog &#187; File Format War: Microsoft spokesman answers some issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brian Vuyk wrote;Since this vote is not the end of the process, that will go until February when another JTC-1 meeting in Geneva will take place, I posed some questions to Andrea Valboni, Italian Microsoft’s CTO (read the disclosure). &#8230; [...]</description>
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